Everything about Illarion that fits nowhere else. / Alles über Illarion was inhaltlich in kein anderes Board passt.
Too many good thoughts in this to not be read due to bad formatting.nowitzjt wrote:A friend (who will remain anonymous) convinced me to start this game not too long ago, and I've been talking to him, and reading the forums and learning more and more things about this game.
He's a fighter type, so I wanted to start a mage type so we could have some fun adventures and dungeon crawl a bit and meet new people all while Rping of course.
So I made an elven mage with attributes towards him learning and being good at magic (having magic affinity is actually part of the elven description) and started the game in Noobia as many "noobs" or people new to the game do.
The second I got out of Noobia I was in Trollsbane and met a variety of interesting people, and I responded saying "I'm an elf training to become a member of the Magic Academy". The response I got was very discouraging, "don't do it", "don't waste your time", "the people at the Magic Academy are incompetent and hardly ever play, and don't like to teach", so my next logical response to that was to ask all of the other venues to learning magic.
Well, I was told there was a necromancer that wanted to turn your body into a puppet for learning magic (definitely a no go/not selling my soul for power), there was a band called the Bearers of Fire who I was told only like power and greed which is against the elven description which is supposed to be calm and collected (even though I was under the impression they're supposed to protect the land), the Grey Knights (a possibility), and the one elder in the elven capital which doesn't play much anymore.
Why does it seem to me like the majority of holders of the monopoly of magic in the land are deemed arrogant, power hungry, and generally not very friendly by all the non mages I've met?
I have a hypotheses, either one: the non-magic users are jealous and want magic, or two: power corrupts, and in any system that gives the few power, it always fails with a perfect example being communist Russia.
And isn't it kind of ridiculous for the majority of magic users in the land to have the descriptions such as arrogant, and power hungry when the main users of magic are supposed to be elves which are in theory are calm, and responsible with their power, guardians of the land from an RP standpoint (which this game is supposed to be all about).
It seems kind of hypocritical to me is all, my friend really likes this game and I may like this game too in time and I'de like to see it grow bigger but in order for that to happen I can see this huge problem becoming a main source of discouragement to all new players like myself, and many may leave with a bad taste in their mouth as a result of it.
My logic is this, if it sucks that bad being a teacher, make more teachers and delegate the responsibility or change the system all together, it's pretty tough to RP an elf who has magic in his race description who has little to no hope of learning it (and yes I met a female elf who has been trying to get a teacher for a year/that's ridiculous and shouldn't happen).
Just my thoughts, thought I'de share them and I know some of my opinions could potentially make me a target of teachers and they may not want to teach me as a result of my honesty but it's better that than to become a lying suck up for power (which I bet money a lot of students have to end up being to balance out the arrogance).
And like all groups of people I'm sure there are a few good teachers, but from what I've been hearing it's a few. Btw my character's name is Rymar Tarken and if my honest opinions makes him unteachable fine, I'll make some other character that doesn't require a corrupt few in power to decide his fate.
I'de like to see some honest mature replies to this post and I'll keep playing Rymar to see if I like this game, I want to ride it out and see if this game is as good as my friend says it is.
You contradict yourself.Pellandria wrote:Is the teacher student system broken: I would say a big no to that (...)
Does the magic teaching system currently work: Sadly that aswell is a big no, it worked once, when the magic academy probaply had the best to offer, there where a few normal teacher, someone leaning towards necromantic, a warlock teacher, elves and so on, well sadly most of the teacher do not play anymore (...)
That's good to hear, thank you!Djironnyma wrote:Blablabla?
It is senseless to discuss here. It is well know that the magic system is not working. There will be change in the way of teach magic and in the power of magic as soon as some dev have time to do so. You call for a change which is already decided - just wait until a dev found time and motivation to do so.....
A system based on wrong assumptions is basically crap.Pellandria wrote:@Martin: Wrong. you should read more carefully, the system as such is not broken, the basics "teacher teaches student" is great actually, it jsut does ~not~ work in the current situation because of the lack of teacher, there is a difference of what should be it and what it is, the theory of teacher-student is great, the actuall work that is done is sadly bad