The game over the years..

Tildi · Post by **Tildi** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:28 am

I am new to Illarion, haven't seen the old one.

but from what i just know in general, being a chain WoW player, Illarion is fun.

But getting into is rough and the penalties for messing up on something or saying something wrong are stupendous.
I liek the game, LOVE the roleplay, even if you guys say it has diminished, and I will continue to play it.

You don't need to compete with the commercial industries, what I see is that if you play Illarion, you are the cream of the crop RPGers. So if we maybe had, at all times, 50 players online and maybe 100 at the highpoint, we would be stellar and the game would be nice and friendly to play, no overcrowds or anything.

wolfsword · Post by **wolfsword** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:31 am

Bigger server size would be nice... I wouldn't even mind paying 2-5$ a month.....

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:46 am

The server's big enough.
It's the playerbase that needs expanding.

wolfsword · Post by **wolfsword** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:47 am

Er...well making the server bigger so more people can join?
you get my point

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:52 am

As I said, server's large enough to handle more.
It's just a matter of more people gaining interest and actually joining.

EDIT: What happened to that thing where we vote every 24 hours to get Illarion on the Top Games list or whatever? We need to start that again, gain more pplz0r.

Elsi · Post by **Elsi** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:54 am

wolfsword wrote:Er...well making the server bigger so more people can join?
you get my point

I think the point is that there's not much advertising of the game, so not many people *try* to join.

Think of it this way - if someone is looking for a high role playing online environment, how likely are they to fine Illarion? Do a google search and see which RPG directories Illarion ISN'T on, and see if you can submit a link. If you have a blog, put a link in it. If you're on any rpg mailing lists, put a link in your .sigfile. Publicize, publicize, publicize.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:55 am

Indeed.

Irania · Post by **Irania** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:12 am

The player list didn't used to be alphabetized so if you played long enough your characters name would end up at the very top of the list. ^^

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:21 am

Yulp.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:41 pm

Lance Thunnigan wrote:As I said, server's large enough to handle more.
It's just a matter of more people gaining interest and actually joining.

EDIT: What happened to that thing where we vote every 24 hours to get Illarion on the Top Games list or whatever? We need to start that again, gain more pplz0r.

Last time we did that we got 3 kabazillion pornspambots. But.. I guess we have our anti-spambot profile thing now.

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:50 pm

I'm going to be dreadfully honest and say that really when I give people a link to Illarion (and I still do now and again) unless I frame it as something that's really cool and needs to be checked out (and I haven't in a while), most people don't find it worth checking out.

That's sort of the trick. Illarion's ingame experience has to be greater than it's website, graphics, look, and premise, because none of those four things are enough to attract people on their own. That's not altogether a bad thing. I see plenty of games that attract people based on their killer eyecandy graphics and then the game sucks and people summarily leave once they've gotten their fix of pretty.

Alternatively, it wouldn't exactly hurt to improve those four things, either, but that requires manpower (and dedication) that Illarion doesn't always have available.

I've thought a lot about what Illarion needs to attract players. Martin and I have spent sessions beating our heads together and trying to figure it out. Tibia has nothing that's greater than Illarion and those guys are swimming in euros over that crapshoot of a game.

At the end of the day, I think that more advertising will bring a small trickle of players that stay and a large amount of players that leave. Word-of-mouth is what brings people and keeps them.

Post by **Nitram** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:28 pm

I have to admitt that I tend to agree with Aeggy.

If one goes on the Illarion Homepage ( that is still the first place, every new player comes to ) a good part will say something like "yeah... sure, bye". The next ones leave when they are not able to find the screenshots and the last one leave then say see the screenshots.
All who get over this, stay in game or leave because the game is nothing for them or they do not find anyone in the game.

We can't do anything against our screenshots, because thats the state, and we are hardly able to improve them alot.
About the homepage... I would love to improve it, but I'm noone who is able to create a Webdesign that is able to catch the viewer. And on my request, for someone who could do this, some time ago, I didn't got alot of responces.

Nitram

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:42 pm

Being perfectally honest, I like what the homepage looks like. What we could add is a link which leads to the newbie guide of the wiki (something like "Starting Guide"). Otherwise personally I like it.

The graphics are gorgeous IMHO, the only problem which I can see is the lack of paperdolling, otherwise it looks great.

Added: On second thoughts, the website looks a bit scary. Stuff liek "Development" imho should be closed into one large link, there are far too many links

Pellandria · Post by **Pellandria** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:49 pm

I dunno, I like the front page, its just fitting to the game, I don't want to be greeted with bright colours or stupid anime figures like every page and their dog.

Just take World of Warcraft as example, their frontpage looks like crap, and Orc and some elf and some kind of Artwork in the Background, tells much about the Game itself really and still people play this game, I guess more "serious" people who are really liking "this kind of game" wouldn't be scared of our front page nor our screenshots, its hard enough to find an graphical rpg game in the I-Net anyway and Illarion is by no means ugly we got some pretty good graphics aswell, its just the gameplay that most people don't like and I guess there is no way to change it.

As pointed out allready, most will leave if they see that monsterbashing isn't the mainpoint or we didn't got tenthousand animations for one magicspell.

Edit: Maybe there are People with some Kind of "sick mentalety" ala "If I pay for a Game it must be good". Why else would people constantly buy crap off the internet, yes even small stupid browsergames who can run on a small server littered with advertisments and still you can buy crap there and even if I don't get it, these people make good cash of it, maybe we should sell the "Ilarion fight music(old one)" as ringtone or something

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:53 pm

Put l337'r screenshots up.

Quinasa · Post by **Quinasa** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:12 pm

Aegohl wrote:Martin and I have spent sessions beating our heads together and trying to figure it out.

No wonder my head hurts so bad!

I agree with Mitch and Nitram for the most part.

Deinarious · Post by **Deinarious** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:50 am

I think I joined after the char wipe, when the client was still an exe you had to download. I had previously played other free MMOs like Furcadia, Secrets of Mirage and RPG World Online, and didn't like them because they both lacked role play. Well, that's not completely true... I learned to cyber on Furcadia. Anyways, I was impressed with the quality of the role play in Illarion, and for the longest time was hooked. But, as many people learned, and still know, I'm a freakin' crazy person and noob on the forums.

Anyhow, when the Java Client came out, I asked my friend with a high-speed connection (I was using dial-up that only had 10 hours a month per free user, along with a large banner at the top....NetZero. Most evil ISP ever.), and when I got them, I tested it and loved it.

However, over the time I've been here, I've caused many problems, and left many times, only to return a few months later (Current total is six or seven...not sure), and as a result of both, many people here think of me as a freakin' crazy person, and many are hostile towards me in the forums...

But overall, I like Illarion. If I could, I'd make a game as good as this one...Maybe someday I will, maybe not.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:36 am

Illarion became too stressful for me to play it, which mooted any motivation for development for the game. Its just too serious for my taste now. Worrying about my character's safety is something I'd like to occur when I'm in a dungeon (when its good for atmosphere) or even some when I'm travelling , not cooking a bowl of soup in the middle of a fortified town.

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:21 pm

grobul,

your char just lived in the wrong town.

Irania · Post by **Irania** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:26 pm

Gro'bul wrote:Illarion became too stressful for me to play it, which mooted any motivation for development for the game. Its just too serious for my taste now. Worrying about my character's safety is something I'd like to occur when I'm in a dungeon (when its good for atmosphere) or even some when I'm travelling , not cooking a bowl of soup in the middle of a fortified town.

The soup is fuggin evil. I wanted to buy one and I didn't think it would be that expensive. I was so wrong. I wasted 1 silver and 30 coppers on a damn mushroom soup.

Norunag von Niratal · Post by **Norunag von Niratal** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:42 pm

Ouhhh yahhh the old, old old time!

It was beautiful, smithing was easy...all was eay

I miss the old time in illa....2001-2003....there i quit illa and 2006 I began it new...^^

Grunith Shuth · Post by **Grunith Shuth** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:59 am

I miss both the old and new Illarions, and both will always have a special place in my heart despite what time does in life! Wonder if any of you lot remember me! Well, so much for my surprise visit. I'm away to join the circus again!

Ciao!

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:20 pm

Grunith Shuth wrote:Wonder if any of you lot remember me!

Certainly. Idols and legends will never be forgotten.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:29 pm

Estralis Seborian wrote:
Grunith Shuth wrote:Wonder if any of you lot remember me!
Certainly. Idols and legends will never be forgotten.

pen0r.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:30 pm

Lance Thunnigan wrote:
Estralis Seborian wrote:
Grunith Shuth wrote:Wonder if any of you lot remember me!
Certainly. Idols and legends will never be forgotten.
pen0r.

Stfu, Esty>You.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:33 pm

AlexRose wrote:
Lance Thunnigan wrote:
Estralis Seborian wrote: Certainly. Idols and legends will never be forgotten.
pen0r.
Stfu, Esty>You.

Illarion Community > AlexRose.
. . .Poo > AlexRose.
x]

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:41 pm

Grunith Shuth wrote:Wonder if any of you lot remember me!

Come back?