Americanism

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:57 pm

I've noticed a lot of Americanism in illarion,

There is no gammon, but ham.
You buy armor, not armour.

Etc. etc.

I just read the TB guard board and saw someone correct an English spelling of a word to an American one.

Surely in medieval periods, they'd use the English spellings?

Naerwyn · Post by **Naerwyn** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:58 pm

The characters 'hear' the words, they don't see them, so does it really matter?

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:59 pm

Naerwyn wrote:The characters 'hear' the words, they don't see them, so does it really matter?

They see them if they're written on the town boards.

I'm glad I don't have to play a fighter either, or I might have to type *shudders* "armor".

abcfantasy · Post by **abcfantasy** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:01 pm

Does it really matter? Is it really important?

I think we should just accept both.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:06 pm

@ Alexrose :

If we would REALLY want to make the game MEDIEVAL sounding, we would have to speak OLD dialects.
The game is FANTASY, not MEDIEVAL themed.

It is always good to use sone shakespeare-sounding sentences, but old english isn't understandeable by kinda most of us. As is old german.

And to be serious, this post is absolutely ridiculous from a player who writes things like "screw you" ingame...

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:12 pm

Alex, are you surprised he corrected Armour to Armor? Look who did it.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:43 pm

To quote from Oblivon: Bla bla, what a bore!

Okay, I preffer armour too but I really don't care horribly much if someone types armor.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:46 pm

Isn't this unnecessary?

Cool down Alex, and stop being so British.

I hate Americanisation as much as you do...

Ambrosine · Post by **Ambrosine** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:05 pm

Is spelling really a big deal on posts?

I kind of think of it as a reflection of the post itself... you know...

A post with little punctuation and a number of grammatical/spelling errors, is a piece of crinkled parchment written in a rough, agitated hand, whereas a post that generally obeys the rules of spelling and grammer is a written in a more stable, perhaps (if it seems come from an educated point of view)flowing, script.

And when you think of it that way small changes such as armour-armor, colour-color don't really make a difference, and dialect specific word usage reflects the background of the characters themselves.

It's when people try to demean each other by correcting spelling errors that things become an issue. And really, if the only argument a person can come up with is your spelling, or they purposefully choose to stoop to the level of arguing grammar in place of ideas, are they really worth beating a dead horse over?
(And we all know which thread I'm talking about, don't we? )

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:16 pm

Damien wrote:And to be serious, this post is absolutely ridiculous from a player who writes things like "screw you" ingame...

USED TO write things like that.

I've probably not said that in over a year.

That was a low blow

, you've seen how pedantic I've become

.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:49 pm

About how far is Trolls Bane from London?

Theon · Post by **Theon** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:50 pm

10 km

Post by **Nitram** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:54 pm

google says 917 miles

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:57 pm

Oh no, Nitram used miles not km, he has betrayed the metric system, kill him!

Post by **Nitram** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:01 pm

1476km? ^^

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:12 pm

Fooser wrote:Oh no, Nitram used miles not km, he has betrayed the metric system, kill him!

*jumps on nitram with a big knife*

FOR THE FRENCH!

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:16 pm

I admit, in my first days, i tried for half an hour to buy 'half leather armour'. I think this shows how confusing it can be for an english newcomer, althought admitedly it was a little stupid.

Theon · Post by **Theon** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:19 pm

Just to conclude...

I'm from England and I say ham, is that wrong?

Alex, you must always keep in mind... this game is a parody! If you mention anything about medieval you'll get someone saying it's not it's a fantasy world completely separate and characters can have laptops if they want. No-one will ever agree.

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:20 pm

I say ham too. Gammon is a particular type of ham. But really, I draw the line at 'color'.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:22 pm

In old english I think people sometimes said "dye" instead of "die"...think of the confusion that would cause!

First - It was dumb to correct the spelling of it, second I've seen both spellings, most people don't care which, it really isnt a big deal

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:50 pm

this is stupid.... just look at the names of the items ham is titled ham, and any armor that has armor in the name is titled with "armor"

Kaila Galathil Travinus · Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:14 pm

Fooser wrote:most people don't care

I agree, and as long as I can figure out what someone says, I am not particular about the spelling, after all, the RPG board and ig, are mainly "spoken" words or emotes.

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:28 pm

We threw all your poncy u's overboard in the Boston Vowel Party! Arrr =)

Sorry. I get excited when it comes around the 4th of July. =P

Dantagon Marescot · Post by **Dantagon Marescot** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:45 pm

I personally have let some of the British English slip into my spelling when it comes to spelling armour occasionally. I don't see anything wrong with it, it means the same thing just with a different spelling. It is like grey and gray, same word, same meaning, just another way to spell it.

And yeah, arguing over an ic post when it comes to spelling is just fing stupid. I don't expect any persons spelling to be perfect on the rp boards unless they are doing a rp post. I actually expect people to have spelling mistakes because it makes sence for their character to not have perfect spelling. They aren't scholars, nor are most characters supposed to be that well learned so to speak. I don't know, it just makes sence to me.

@ Aegohl: I agree. The 4th of July is nice. A day off and quite a few firework displays. Something worth looking forward to.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:21 pm

It's quite simple why, really. There are more American than English players, so we get our english implemented. Seems fair to me.

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:25 pm

4th of July is lame. I preferred it when the English owned most of the world. Those were the days.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:27 pm

Skaalib Drurr wrote:4th of July is lame. I preferred it when the English owned most of the world. Those were the days.

/signed

Dantagon Marescot · Post by **Dantagon Marescot** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:00 pm

You're just jelous that you don't get to have fireworks.

Bellringer · Post by **Bellringer** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:07 pm

We have Guy Fawkes' night

Also, I agree, Americanisms ftl, correct spelling ftw.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:08 pm

... November 5th.

We get fireworks AND bonfires.

Remember, remember the 5th of November.

Bonfire night ftw!

Go Gunpowder plotters!