Weopon breaking

Ezor Edwickton · Post by **Ezor Edwickton** » Mon May 09, 2005 4:27 am

I think it would be better if when i weapon breaks it should become a damaged weapon first before disappearing. ie: dagger, becomes rusty dagger. You'd have to take your weapon to a smith to get repaired, but if you continue to fight with it you have a chance of ruining it completely (it disappers). This could also work wth armor and shields as well.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Mon May 09, 2005 4:30 am

They already said they had something like this planned.

Ezor Edwickton · Post by **Ezor Edwickton** » Mon May 09, 2005 4:33 am

Oh, sounds good, i wasn't sure if that was comming, i guess they have a lot of things to get caught up with before hand though.

Shi'voc · Post by **Shi'voc** » Mon May 09, 2005 6:33 am

it's already implemented like that... it's just that you are lacking the possibility to see the quality until that is implemented as well.

Talaena Landessi · Post by **Talaena Landessi** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:37 am

Maybe you click on it/ "look" at it something like

The Sword is in perfect condition (slashing weapon with no debuffs)

The sword has a few nics (-x amount to damage)

The sword has many nics (-xx amount to damage)

The sword is getting rusted (-xxx amout damage)

The sword is rusted & Becoming dull (-xxxx amount damage)

The sword is rusted & Dull (need to be repaired really soon,maybee turn to concussion weapon with the damage of a club ^_^)

Your sword breaks (you would get a damaged sword handle/damaged sword blade)

after that you have to bring it to a smith to get it repaired and put back together ^_^

Rugosch · Post by **Rugosch** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:14 am

Talaena Landessi wrote:Your sword breaks (you would get a damaged sword handle/damaged sword blade)

after that you have to bring it to a smith to get it repaired and put back together ^_^

Ild say, this is the time, it is too late. I wouldnt try to repair a broken sword. And by the way, a repair would be nice, but shouldnt reset the quality to the original. Instead the weapon/tool/armor becomes a quality one level worse than the original and the original will be set one level worse. So there is a new way to get money through work without making production of new wares senseless. Problem is, that there is need of an additional information at every item (original quality).

In addition ther could be the possibility that weapons/tools with wooden handles anly the handle breaks and the head is still there. This gives more worth to the work of a carpenter (and is more realistic, I think). To solve with a percentage, that the head is in the inventory as soon as the tool/weapon breaks)

The-Puppeteer · Post by **The-Puppeteer** » Wed May 18, 2005 3:54 pm

Is this being worked on? Because i think the weapons at the moment break a bit to fast, Since it's such a long distance between the monsters and the town it can be a pain.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Wed May 18, 2005 4:00 pm

There already is a quality system in place, just the seeing it/repairing is not finished I guess.

Dónal Mason wrote:Actually, iron back then would have been quite brittle. They didn't have the advanced purification techniques we have nowadays.

Not really, pure iron is quite soft. They used a process called bloomery to make the metal usable. Melted iron, or cast iron, is very brittle. However you get this if you leave it in the coal too long, timing is all about experience. Most of the iron was a steel/iron, because the outside of the bloom would get more carbon than the center, the outer crust of the metal would be steel and the inner would be iron.

martin · Post by **martin** » Wed May 18, 2005 4:19 pm

Right.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed May 18, 2005 6:24 pm

martin wrote:Right.

P.S. This is a developer (for those of you who do not know

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P.P.S. Martin, as I could see, you posted in your always comprehensive and nonrevealing manner. But I guess I could understand this time.

The-Puppeteer · Post by **The-Puppeteer** » Wed May 18, 2005 6:35 pm

You mean that it says bad dagger or something like that?

I actually never checked, the item always broke before i had the chance

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:38 pm

One of Martin's words equals 100,000 of a mortals words.

Nilo · Post by **Nilo** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:13 pm

You know, i wish weapons didn't break period. Thats one of the reasons why i dont really play anymore...

martin · Post by **martin** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:15 pm

Then this game is the wrong game for you, probably.
No way to express that in 1 word, sorry.

Martin

Nilo · Post by **Nilo** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:37 pm

I've played it for 3 years now... I like it a lot, its just all the new things kinda came at me too fast.

Pendar · Post by **Pendar** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:20 am

Weapon breakage is one of the best features, not only does it keep smiths in business. It means that there is always an off chance you can beat some one more skilled than you. There weapon could break

More over once weapons have a value, so we can see how good they are it will make for great tradeing.
Above all else it will stop things getting as they were, I once had 8 double axes in my depot and Pendar was not a rich character. I could give them away for nothing and you would only ever lose it if you died and some one didnt save your equipment.
I actually really like it..
Now all we need is broken weapons to break down into a pile of junk. That can be resmelted for a quarter of what it takes to make the item.
Brian

The-Puppeteer · Post by **The-Puppeteer** » Thu May 19, 2005 7:18 am

mmm... yeah, it's quite fun when you made me think about it, but the problem is Eliza's incredible prices!! Somebody has to go and sell her some daggers!! We need inflation, because there arn't always smiths on when you need them..

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:59 pm

I like the weapon breaking idea, but they break too freakin' quickly.

My daggers feel like they're made of a mixture of dirt and straw rather than iron.

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:01 pm

Actually, iron back then would have been quite brittle. They didn't have the advanced purification techniques we have nowadays.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:14 am

Dónal Mason wrote:Actually, iron back then would have been quite brittle. They didn't have the advanced purification techniques we have nowadays.

Medieval fantasy. There could be a lot of good techniques (or magical ones even) for weapon/armor making.

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:23 am

Yes, so do it!

Martin

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:30 am

Fooser wrote:
Dónal Mason wrote:Actually, iron back then would have been quite brittle. They didn't have the advanced purification techniques we have nowadays.
Medieval fantasy. There could be a lot of good techniques (or magical ones even) for weapon/armor making.

There is, afterall, the magical metal known as Martinium, er, Merinium.

The-Puppeteer · Post by **The-Puppeteer** » Fri May 20, 2005 2:22 pm

btw, where are all of the mummies, when I went tomb raiding I didn't meet any resistance, what happend to them?

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Fri May 20, 2005 2:29 pm

The-Puppeteer wrote:btw, where are all of the mummies, when I went tomb raiding I didn't meet any resistance, what happend to them?

They went underground, they kept getting sunburnt.

Galim · Post by **Galim** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:29 pm

Actually, iron back then would have been quite brittle. They didn't have the advanced purification techniques we have nowadays.

lol, thats not true. in the medievil times they had damn good knowledge about iron and how to use it for really good weapons or armors. especially the area of Toledo was very famous for their high quality steal and weapons. like in japan where the craftmen and smiths made unbelievable good iron wares, like swords. see muramasa and masamune, the two most famous names of the japaenese smith culture.

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:37 pm

Well then, in the Illarion region they have a very poor knowledge of iron. Why else do you think the weapons keep breaking? Inept smiths!

Galim · Post by **Galim** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:37 pm

good merchant mind of eliza. this way she sells more

. she buys by bad smiths bad wares and sell it expensive to us. a good character smith would make weapons which are much more better and hold longer.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:41 pm

Dónal Mason wrote:Actually, iron back then would have been quite brittle. They didn't have the advanced purification techniques we have nowadays.

Steel, merinium, plutonium titanium, whatever. The weapons are still brittle as glass IG.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Fri May 20, 2005 4:14 pm

I suppose you never had glass armor in Morrowind?

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri May 20, 2005 4:38 pm

If you look at your weapons now, you will soon find out why they break so fast.
You better start searching for a new and better smith.

Martin